hatunike
Apr 11, 01:23 PM
Interesting discussion.
It seems that many people pirate Adobe products because they want to learn the tools, but don't have a job to pay for it's high prices. Those who are anti-piracy seem to argue that if you have the tools and the know-how than you can easily make enough money to pay for the price.
Do those in the anti-piracy camp have major issues with someone who pirates Adobe products, but doesn't "profit" from them?....i.e doesn't make even enough money to cover the costs of the original products or even makes zero dollars?
Of course it is still illegal, but it seems like everyone's defense revolves around "if you make money off of a product than you should pay for it"..
I personally feel that pirating is wrong in ALL cases. However, I couldn't care less if someone pirated it, and profited in NO way.
Piracy aside, I do think it's interesting to see Adobe going this way, and I don't think it will pay off. At a time when Apple is enabling developers with it's App store to be able to charge less for apps, but earn more money with a higher volume of downloads. Not to mention the customer gets some amazing benefits by using the app store: integration with the os (think Launchpad), easy updates, multiple licenses across a users account, use of itunes account to make purchases, etc
Seems like Adobe is just BEGGING for developers to take away their business. It's already happening with pixelmator, aperature, etc doing 80% of what adobe does, but at fraction of the cost.
I give it one more year, and Adobe's products will be entirely replaceable by App store Apps that will be SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper. Developers will be making their money, the apps will be cheap enough that piracy won't be as big of an issue, and everyone will be happy (except Adobe....and those heavily invested into their software model, and business).
It seems that many people pirate Adobe products because they want to learn the tools, but don't have a job to pay for it's high prices. Those who are anti-piracy seem to argue that if you have the tools and the know-how than you can easily make enough money to pay for the price.
Do those in the anti-piracy camp have major issues with someone who pirates Adobe products, but doesn't "profit" from them?....i.e doesn't make even enough money to cover the costs of the original products or even makes zero dollars?
Of course it is still illegal, but it seems like everyone's defense revolves around "if you make money off of a product than you should pay for it"..
I personally feel that pirating is wrong in ALL cases. However, I couldn't care less if someone pirated it, and profited in NO way.
Piracy aside, I do think it's interesting to see Adobe going this way, and I don't think it will pay off. At a time when Apple is enabling developers with it's App store to be able to charge less for apps, but earn more money with a higher volume of downloads. Not to mention the customer gets some amazing benefits by using the app store: integration with the os (think Launchpad), easy updates, multiple licenses across a users account, use of itunes account to make purchases, etc
Seems like Adobe is just BEGGING for developers to take away their business. It's already happening with pixelmator, aperature, etc doing 80% of what adobe does, but at fraction of the cost.
I give it one more year, and Adobe's products will be entirely replaceable by App store Apps that will be SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper. Developers will be making their money, the apps will be cheap enough that piracy won't be as big of an issue, and everyone will be happy (except Adobe....and those heavily invested into their software model, and business).
Starbuckfsd
Apr 17, 09:01 PM
http://www.macrumors.com/images/macrumorsthreadlogo.gif (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/04/17/best-buy-and-toys-r-us-selling-ipads-on-sunday/)
http://images.macrumors.com/article/2011/04/17/003807-ipad-2-best-buy-ad.jpg
Ad via Business Insider (http://www.businessinsider.com/ipad-2-on-sale-at-best-buy-2011-4#ixzz1JieCjU9C)
For those still looking to buy an iPad 2, Sunday, April 17th may be a good time to try. Both Best Buy and Toys R' Us are advertising iPad 2 availability for that day. Best Buy is featuring a prominent nationwide ad for Sunday promoting the iPad 2 (see above). The promotion appears to be the reason (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/04/08/best-buy-not-in-trouble-with-apple-holding-ipad-2-stock-for-upcoming-promotion/) why Best Buy was previously holding back iPad 2 sales. Engadget publishes (http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/15/still-need-an-ipad-2-head-to-best-buy-on-sunday-sunday-sunday/) the internal memo describing the promotion.
Meanwhile, 9to5mac reports (http://www.9to5mac.com/61694/exclusive-toys-r-us-to-start-selling-16-gb-and-32-gb-wifi-ipad-2s-smart-covers-tomorrow-sunday-april-17/) Toys R' Us is also using the same day to kick off their iPad 2 sales. Toys R' Us was previously rumored (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/04/07/apple-expanding-ipad-2-retail-presence-to-toys-r-us/) to soon begin carrying the iPad 2. Toys R' Us' website now lists (http://www.toysrus.com/shop/index.jsp?categoryId=11202426&camp=MISC:Vanity:printads:TRU:iPadstores:30311) locations that will be carrying the iPad 2.
Article Link: Best Buy and Toys R' Us Selling iPads on Sunday (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/04/17/best-buy-and-toys-r-us-selling-ipads-on-sunday/)
Why are you bothering mentioning Best Buy like they haven't been selling the iPad2 SINCE RELEASE DAY? Jesus, anything to get someone to click on your story huh? Desperate much?
http://images.macrumors.com/article/2011/04/17/003807-ipad-2-best-buy-ad.jpg
Ad via Business Insider (http://www.businessinsider.com/ipad-2-on-sale-at-best-buy-2011-4#ixzz1JieCjU9C)
For those still looking to buy an iPad 2, Sunday, April 17th may be a good time to try. Both Best Buy and Toys R' Us are advertising iPad 2 availability for that day. Best Buy is featuring a prominent nationwide ad for Sunday promoting the iPad 2 (see above). The promotion appears to be the reason (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/04/08/best-buy-not-in-trouble-with-apple-holding-ipad-2-stock-for-upcoming-promotion/) why Best Buy was previously holding back iPad 2 sales. Engadget publishes (http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/15/still-need-an-ipad-2-head-to-best-buy-on-sunday-sunday-sunday/) the internal memo describing the promotion.
Meanwhile, 9to5mac reports (http://www.9to5mac.com/61694/exclusive-toys-r-us-to-start-selling-16-gb-and-32-gb-wifi-ipad-2s-smart-covers-tomorrow-sunday-april-17/) Toys R' Us is also using the same day to kick off their iPad 2 sales. Toys R' Us was previously rumored (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/04/07/apple-expanding-ipad-2-retail-presence-to-toys-r-us/) to soon begin carrying the iPad 2. Toys R' Us' website now lists (http://www.toysrus.com/shop/index.jsp?categoryId=11202426&camp=MISC:Vanity:printads:TRU:iPadstores:30311) locations that will be carrying the iPad 2.
Article Link: Best Buy and Toys R' Us Selling iPads on Sunday (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/04/17/best-buy-and-toys-r-us-selling-ipads-on-sunday/)
Why are you bothering mentioning Best Buy like they haven't been selling the iPad2 SINCE RELEASE DAY? Jesus, anything to get someone to click on your story huh? Desperate much?
mrweirdo
Oct 29, 01:31 AM
Just my luck I was gona take my macbook in for RSD tomorrow to get the heatsink replaced and now they come out with this fix. There is defiantly something wrong with the hardware though(i believe the heatsink has burned through some of the wires) besides the random shutdown when my system is at idle my fans will kick in suddenly at full speed then run for about a minute that fast or sometimes cut out completely then start up again. Something that it never did before rsd developed.
I bet if i take it in tomorrow they will just tell me to apply this update which does nothing to solve the damage that has already been done to my macbook. My guess this is a fix apple has done to get them out of the 1 year warranty period were the macbook will then develop further hardware problems. Then you will have to pay out of pocket to get it fixed unless you buy apple care. Also this temporary patch helps them sell more apple care subscriptions.
All i can say is i better not have hardware issues after my year is up or I'm done with apple :(
I bet if i take it in tomorrow they will just tell me to apply this update which does nothing to solve the damage that has already been done to my macbook. My guess this is a fix apple has done to get them out of the 1 year warranty period were the macbook will then develop further hardware problems. Then you will have to pay out of pocket to get it fixed unless you buy apple care. Also this temporary patch helps them sell more apple care subscriptions.
All i can say is i better not have hardware issues after my year is up or I'm done with apple :(
Antares
May 4, 09:40 PM
This could be really nice. A natural evolution for display on portable device. I hope it pans out sooner than later.
mrochester
Apr 17, 02:01 AM
How. Many. Full. Stops. Do. They. Want. To. Cram. Into. One. Advert? Have they ever heard of the comma? It's this really useful little squiggle that can be used to separate items in a list.
lostngone
Mar 28, 11:03 PM
Next Year is going to suck for buying tickets.
If we went from 8 days to 12 hours what will next year be like?
If we went from 8 days to 12 hours what will next year be like?
kwajo.com
Sep 6, 10:13 AM
And you will still have people saying that isn't enough....
it isn't, I have 4GB now and I still get tons of pageouts by the end of the work day :p
it isn't, I have 4GB now and I still get tons of pageouts by the end of the work day :p
ciTiger
May 4, 09:52 PM
It will happen eventually but in the iPad3 already?
Besides Apple usually pimps up the iPhone before the iPad and the next iPhone won't have 3D...
Unless they abdicate on the retina display on the iPad and go 3D instead...
Besides Apple usually pimps up the iPhone before the iPad and the next iPhone won't have 3D...
Unless they abdicate on the retina display on the iPad and go 3D instead...
rans0m00
Mar 28, 01:04 PM
Man, Apple keeps getting lower and lower. First Walmart, now this?
ROFL Sorry to be the one to let you know since you obviously had not noticed Apple goes for profit. They make good products then hype them up to be excellent products. Selling at Walmart, Bestbuy, and Target just makes sense so why not include Radioshack? I am not saying anything bad about Apple products I have quite a few and enjoy them but Apple is not anything special that is only reserved for a special audience. They are expensive pretty toys so if I can go to my local Radioshack instead of having to drive to a busier store and wait in lines for people to get their groceries rang up then I would do it in a second.
ROFL Sorry to be the one to let you know since you obviously had not noticed Apple goes for profit. They make good products then hype them up to be excellent products. Selling at Walmart, Bestbuy, and Target just makes sense so why not include Radioshack? I am not saying anything bad about Apple products I have quite a few and enjoy them but Apple is not anything special that is only reserved for a special audience. They are expensive pretty toys so if I can go to my local Radioshack instead of having to drive to a busier store and wait in lines for people to get their groceries rang up then I would do it in a second.
NintendoFan
Nov 24, 07:03 AM
It's too bad that these kids will never know how much better sounding a CD can be over 256kbs. I put applelossless on my iPod and when I let someone listen they usually say wow! it sounds so good.
I agree. I think at some point (hopefully) Apple will offer Apple Lossless as an iTunes standard. It will just take a small leap in processing power (CPU or GPU) to convert the files quickly on the fly when syncing. I think we're close, as they do it now, but it still takes too long.
But at 256 I think you get very close for most people to find it hard to distinguish between a Lossless file and an AAC file.
I agree. I think at some point (hopefully) Apple will offer Apple Lossless as an iTunes standard. It will just take a small leap in processing power (CPU or GPU) to convert the files quickly on the fly when syncing. I think we're close, as they do it now, but it still takes too long.
But at 256 I think you get very close for most people to find it hard to distinguish between a Lossless file and an AAC file.
baleensavage
Sep 12, 02:59 PM
Has anyone seen anything about being able to redownload TV shows we already purchased with the higher resolution. I haven't seen anything, but if Apple doesn't offer this, I'll be pretty peeved off as I just bought these shows recently.
SeattleMoose
Mar 12, 02:44 PM
;)
Warbrain
Nov 6, 11:53 PM
My prediction: Apple will eventually come out with a 10.6" widescreen "MacBook mini". I think it'll more like 3 lbs, not 2 lbs, though, since that Sony laptop does not have an optical drive. I hope Apple doesn't do away with the optical drive (and I don't think they will), since I think that being a portable DVD player is really a core function of laptops at this point, at least a multimedia and consumer centered laptop (which a MacBook mini would be).
I've seen the Fujitsu 10.6" LifeBook laptops with built-in optical drive and they are sweeeeeeeeeeeet!:
http://www.pcconnection.com/ProductDetail?sku=6170351&srccode=cii_5784816&cpncode=10-28291577-2
One thing about the Fujitsu computers though - they are *expensive* (about $2000). Since Apple is one of the best companies in the world at making very compact products, maybe they can release a game-changing computer in this category. I mean, what if Apple were to basically release the MacBook, just with a smaller screen - and for about the same price as the MacBook!! Apple would have a monster hit on its hands, IMHO. It would be extremely popular with a lot of customers, but especially with students that are already carrying already heavy books, etc. in their bookbags, and would love a lighter, more compact computer...
I just don't see that happening, even if they have an optical drive in it. Apple is content with the portable line as it is, and the MacBook is pretty compact already. Plus, I don't see Apple using a smaller widescreen than 13.3".
I've seen the Fujitsu 10.6" LifeBook laptops with built-in optical drive and they are sweeeeeeeeeeeet!:
http://www.pcconnection.com/ProductDetail?sku=6170351&srccode=cii_5784816&cpncode=10-28291577-2
One thing about the Fujitsu computers though - they are *expensive* (about $2000). Since Apple is one of the best companies in the world at making very compact products, maybe they can release a game-changing computer in this category. I mean, what if Apple were to basically release the MacBook, just with a smaller screen - and for about the same price as the MacBook!! Apple would have a monster hit on its hands, IMHO. It would be extremely popular with a lot of customers, but especially with students that are already carrying already heavy books, etc. in their bookbags, and would love a lighter, more compact computer...
I just don't see that happening, even if they have an optical drive in it. Apple is content with the portable line as it is, and the MacBook is pretty compact already. Plus, I don't see Apple using a smaller widescreen than 13.3".
eva01
Aug 24, 03:49 PM
why are two different Apple websites giving slightly DIFFERENT serial numbers? one is 3K***** and the other is 3X*****
here are the two Apple websites:
https://depot.info.apple.com/batteryexchange/
https://support.apple.com/ibook_powerbook/batteryexchange/index.html
so one of those is right and one is not. and of course, one of those i have to send my battery back, and one i dont! ahhh, what to do?!
the first one you linked is the recall from 2005 i believe
here are the two Apple websites:
https://depot.info.apple.com/batteryexchange/
https://support.apple.com/ibook_powerbook/batteryexchange/index.html
so one of those is right and one is not. and of course, one of those i have to send my battery back, and one i dont! ahhh, what to do?!
the first one you linked is the recall from 2005 i believe
BRLawyer
Aug 3, 03:41 PM
One thing is true...the WWDC pic is DEFINITELY real.
kyjaotkb
Mar 29, 09:51 AM
I'm not very impressed. Rather disappointing news, isn't it ?
1) Voice control: I barely use it on my 3GS... and never see anyone using it. It's already been implemented for ages in every cellphones (remembering old Siemens GSM of 1999 already had it...) and nobody has been using it. Even more gimmicky than 3D imho... When in public transportation, you are trying to be as discreet as possible, not to shout into your phone/earphones mic. maybe for in-car purposes would voice control be a nice addition but most modern cars already offer similar, maybe superior capabilities (thinking about the Renault Carminat universal bluetooth connectivity kit which is great).
2) LTE: does it exist anywhere outside the US ? seems a tad early to me - and seeing how shy Apple was with 3G, I think we'd better wait a year or two.
What I'd rather like in my future iPhone is:
1) a built-in pico projector (making it the ultimate corporate phone in certain situations... plus a fantastic portable multimedia platform)
2)localized social awareness: discover what music people around you are listening to/what sites they're surfing on, etc (opt-in), would be a nice leap in the social network area (where Apple is a bit stagnating)
LTE will not revolutionize how people use their phones, nor will voice control - I don't see myself talking to my phone, it cannot be quicker than typing & swiping... whereas pico-projection, localized social awareness (orh whatever they may call it)... yummy...
anyway, that was just my 2 cents...
1) Voice control: I barely use it on my 3GS... and never see anyone using it. It's already been implemented for ages in every cellphones (remembering old Siemens GSM of 1999 already had it...) and nobody has been using it. Even more gimmicky than 3D imho... When in public transportation, you are trying to be as discreet as possible, not to shout into your phone/earphones mic. maybe for in-car purposes would voice control be a nice addition but most modern cars already offer similar, maybe superior capabilities (thinking about the Renault Carminat universal bluetooth connectivity kit which is great).
2) LTE: does it exist anywhere outside the US ? seems a tad early to me - and seeing how shy Apple was with 3G, I think we'd better wait a year or two.
What I'd rather like in my future iPhone is:
1) a built-in pico projector (making it the ultimate corporate phone in certain situations... plus a fantastic portable multimedia platform)
2)localized social awareness: discover what music people around you are listening to/what sites they're surfing on, etc (opt-in), would be a nice leap in the social network area (where Apple is a bit stagnating)
LTE will not revolutionize how people use their phones, nor will voice control - I don't see myself talking to my phone, it cannot be quicker than typing & swiping... whereas pico-projection, localized social awareness (orh whatever they may call it)... yummy...
anyway, that was just my 2 cents...
cecildk9999
Sep 12, 09:57 PM
Your not paying a premium for the color, you get 8GB. What sucks is you can't get 8GB in colors, lame move on Apple's part with no reason behind it.
I agree with you on the color restriction for the 8GB models; I was really hoping for total color choice across the board when I first saw the updated store picture (missed the keynote). Especially with the new SanDisk 8GB players, I thought Apple might offer a bit more choice on a high end model to entice more people (I suppose I can live with black, though; at least it's not vomit colored or something :rolleyes: )
I agree with you on the color restriction for the 8GB models; I was really hoping for total color choice across the board when I first saw the updated store picture (missed the keynote). Especially with the new SanDisk 8GB players, I thought Apple might offer a bit more choice on a high end model to entice more people (I suppose I can live with black, though; at least it's not vomit colored or something :rolleyes: )
dbattle
Apr 15, 07:43 AM
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If you think about it, it's not all too surprising that some of these "professionals" are getting so worked up and sulky over this release. The notion that "pro editing" can belong to just about anyone, rather than an exclusive circle of elites, poses an existential crisis. Apple's re-thinking of editing is also a re-thinking of what it means to be "professional". The announcement sheds light on a future in which their "advanced", learned techniques are no longer advantageous. The "industry pros" are facing the plight of impending impotence. It's not something anyone would really openly admit, but I think they're feeling a bit naked, stripped of their status.
Who can blame them for being pissy?
Being a professional myself I remember having those fears a few years ago. In fact we lost a large client because one of the employees thought that her high school son could do the same level of work that we did. If that were true I would say shame on us, in reality the client came back to us a few months later when the kid couldn't actually produce the same level of edit quality and creativity that we do.
The price drop doesn't bother me one bit. I think if anything it does open up the door for a teenager to start learning on high end software, then by the time they've finished college and have a sense of who they are as an editor they'll be a welcome, proficient addition, to someones company. I think it serves everyone in the end.
If you think about it, it's not all too surprising that some of these "professionals" are getting so worked up and sulky over this release. The notion that "pro editing" can belong to just about anyone, rather than an exclusive circle of elites, poses an existential crisis. Apple's re-thinking of editing is also a re-thinking of what it means to be "professional". The announcement sheds light on a future in which their "advanced", learned techniques are no longer advantageous. The "industry pros" are facing the plight of impending impotence. It's not something anyone would really openly admit, but I think they're feeling a bit naked, stripped of their status.
Who can blame them for being pissy?
Being a professional myself I remember having those fears a few years ago. In fact we lost a large client because one of the employees thought that her high school son could do the same level of work that we did. If that were true I would say shame on us, in reality the client came back to us a few months later when the kid couldn't actually produce the same level of edit quality and creativity that we do.
The price drop doesn't bother me one bit. I think if anything it does open up the door for a teenager to start learning on high end software, then by the time they've finished college and have a sense of who they are as an editor they'll be a welcome, proficient addition, to someones company. I think it serves everyone in the end.
IntelliUser
Apr 4, 03:46 PM
Umm..no. Sorry.
Uhm, yeah. Saying "this is not true and that's it" is no different than "this is true and that's it."
Uhm, yeah. Saying "this is not true and that's it" is no different than "this is true and that's it."
Thex1138
Mar 12, 07:30 AM
Can't see why they'd bring all the stores down.
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:D
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:D
eyvind
Nov 8, 08:32 AM
It would be really disappointing if they waited with this upgrade for mwsf 2007. I mean, what's new, apart from the very expected Core 2 Duo and the very slow upper hard drive option.
No, I expected at least a different Intel graphical chipset and an upgrade to 1 GB RAM over the full line. Also, it's still $1099, not $999.
Rather disappointing upgrade, Apple, whas this all you did in almost half a year of development?
You're surprised that Apple didn't start designing graphics chips for Intel? :confused:
No, I expected at least a different Intel graphical chipset and an upgrade to 1 GB RAM over the full line. Also, it's still $1099, not $999.
Rather disappointing upgrade, Apple, whas this all you did in almost half a year of development?
You're surprised that Apple didn't start designing graphics chips for Intel? :confused:
klerke
Apr 12, 01:15 PM
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Finally a comment from someone who actually knows what he's talking about.
If you want to red pill of anything real meaningfully, start listing to Noam Chomsky.
Finally a comment from someone who actually knows what he's talking about.
If you want to red pill of anything real meaningfully, start listing to Noam Chomsky.
Lord Blackadder
Apr 26, 03:08 PM
Um, yeah, tell me something i don't know. The question we are pondering is why more blacks live in poor areas with high crime rates than other races.
This is basic history. Beginning in the early 20th century, several waves of black emigration took place from the rural south to industrialized urban centers, primarily in the north. This was known as the "Great Migration" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Migration_(African_American)) (search this on Google Books for plenty of literature on the subject) - this, by the way, also contributed to falling numbers of lynchings by the KKK, because blacks simply fled from areas where such violence was taking place. This was done in order to try and escape Jim Crow as well as find better job opportunities. Just as all minority or immigrant groups do in cities, they tended to concrentrate in the same districts for mutual support. There is nothing specifically "black" about displaced people moving to cities looking for better opportunities. As a group they started at the economic bottom of the barrel, why would be shocked that they their socioeconomic status remains lower than whites, who outnumber them, have far more political and economic power, and have a history of discriminating against them that they is only slowly being reversed?
Well, seeing how blacks commit more violent crimes than whites
That is completely false. (http://www2.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2009/data/table_43.html)
it seems logical that a white trailer park would be safer than a black ghetto.
First it was "common knowledge", now it's logic. I still see it as an irrelevant, unproven assertion.
Name me one single white gang that you've heard of(and not the KKK, they don't terrorize streets anymore, that's sooo 1960's)
Since when did you get to make the rules? How can we possibly have a useful discussion about race and crime if we can't talk about some of the basic underlying causes for the disparity in wealth and political power in America between white people and everybody else? Why should we forget the 3/5ths clause, Dred Scott, the Civil War, Jim Crow, the Civil Rights movement or the KKK and its children. Not to mention the slave trade that brought these people here in the first place. You might not like to talk about all those things, but you are flat out ignoring or dismissing their impact on current issues - and that is the fatal flaw in your reasoning. Your "ponderings" are based on casual observation and a lack of historical or even contemporary context.
I don't see how the issue can be boiled down to listing gangs either. Do only gangs commit crime? There isn't a shred of evidence out there that white people are any more or less likely to commit crime than any other race, or that white people are inherently more prosperous or law-abiding than any other race. Focusing on race itself is always a red herring when talking about crime. The real reasons lie in the mechanics of interaction between different groups.
It's also worth mentioning that over 70% (http://www2.fbi.gov/ucr/hc2009/incidents.html) of hate crimes involve an anti-black bias.
This is basic history. Beginning in the early 20th century, several waves of black emigration took place from the rural south to industrialized urban centers, primarily in the north. This was known as the "Great Migration" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Migration_(African_American)) (search this on Google Books for plenty of literature on the subject) - this, by the way, also contributed to falling numbers of lynchings by the KKK, because blacks simply fled from areas where such violence was taking place. This was done in order to try and escape Jim Crow as well as find better job opportunities. Just as all minority or immigrant groups do in cities, they tended to concrentrate in the same districts for mutual support. There is nothing specifically "black" about displaced people moving to cities looking for better opportunities. As a group they started at the economic bottom of the barrel, why would be shocked that they their socioeconomic status remains lower than whites, who outnumber them, have far more political and economic power, and have a history of discriminating against them that they is only slowly being reversed?
Well, seeing how blacks commit more violent crimes than whites
That is completely false. (http://www2.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2009/data/table_43.html)
it seems logical that a white trailer park would be safer than a black ghetto.
First it was "common knowledge", now it's logic. I still see it as an irrelevant, unproven assertion.
Name me one single white gang that you've heard of(and not the KKK, they don't terrorize streets anymore, that's sooo 1960's)
Since when did you get to make the rules? How can we possibly have a useful discussion about race and crime if we can't talk about some of the basic underlying causes for the disparity in wealth and political power in America between white people and everybody else? Why should we forget the 3/5ths clause, Dred Scott, the Civil War, Jim Crow, the Civil Rights movement or the KKK and its children. Not to mention the slave trade that brought these people here in the first place. You might not like to talk about all those things, but you are flat out ignoring or dismissing their impact on current issues - and that is the fatal flaw in your reasoning. Your "ponderings" are based on casual observation and a lack of historical or even contemporary context.
I don't see how the issue can be boiled down to listing gangs either. Do only gangs commit crime? There isn't a shred of evidence out there that white people are any more or less likely to commit crime than any other race, or that white people are inherently more prosperous or law-abiding than any other race. Focusing on race itself is always a red herring when talking about crime. The real reasons lie in the mechanics of interaction between different groups.
It's also worth mentioning that over 70% (http://www2.fbi.gov/ucr/hc2009/incidents.html) of hate crimes involve an anti-black bias.
citizenzen
Mar 11, 10:57 AM
The parties involved in these enterprises are typically very wealthy individuals or groups who support the government officials who keep the military maintained in good condition to enforce proper capitalism across international borders.
OMG.
So we're supposed to go broke maintaining a bloated military to protect corporate interests abroad?
How insane is that?! :eek:
OMG.
So we're supposed to go broke maintaining a bloated military to protect corporate interests abroad?
How insane is that?! :eek:
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