gavd
Oct 26, 05:24 PM
A friend of mine has just received his MacBook back from Apple where they replaced the heatsink because of the issue. Hopefully this will solve it for others though!
kristiano
Sep 6, 08:50 AM
I am seriously thinking of getting out of Windowsworld and the new 24" iMac looks great!:D
From the listed specs this will really rock.
Anybody have advice on whether I should wait for Leopard to come out or not?
Get one if you need it now.
Bottomline is, when Leopard comes out, there will a cheaper/better Mac. But that's just the way it is with technology.
From the listed specs this will really rock.
Anybody have advice on whether I should wait for Leopard to come out or not?
Get one if you need it now.
Bottomline is, when Leopard comes out, there will a cheaper/better Mac. But that's just the way it is with technology.
skunk
Apr 26, 05:52 PM
Again, all the other races have moved past it except blacks. Beside the fact, many blacks in the UK are immigrants and their ancestors didn't even deal with racial prejudice in the UK. So figure that one out.If this is satire, it's good. But if you are serious, you really need to examine your own reactions. All the other races? Which "other races" were instantly identifiable as chattels? As for British blacks having it easy, I don't think you would find many of them agreeing with that.
kiwi_the_iwik
Apr 14, 02:31 AM
Even though I've worked in the broadcast industry for over 25 years, as a cameraman I don't consider myself to be a professional editor at all. In fact, I probably know how to use only about 1% of the full potential of Final Cut Pro.
However, we as operators are sometimes required to send either edited track and rushes or complete edited packages from locations either locally or abroad, and in broadcast quality.
The ease of use in acquiring footage using a tapeless medium via Log & Transfer (in our case, P2 @ DVCPRO HD), editing on a native timeline and then transferring back to a card with no loss from transcoding is phenomenal. But FCP 6 & 7 had some caveats which I'd hoped would be addressed - especially with our codec of choice.
Our network decided to go with P2 because it was the most solid and diverse codec available for news, current affairs, sports and documentary use - being MPEG-4 native with an Intra-base (with no GOP). Metadata is an important aspect of our workflow, and older versions of FCP relied on third party applications in order to import metadata fields along with our clips.
So far, there's not been much noise as to whether Apple have addressed further P2 support for:
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However, we as operators are sometimes required to send either edited track and rushes or complete edited packages from locations either locally or abroad, and in broadcast quality.
The ease of use in acquiring footage using a tapeless medium via Log & Transfer (in our case, P2 @ DVCPRO HD), editing on a native timeline and then transferring back to a card with no loss from transcoding is phenomenal. But FCP 6 & 7 had some caveats which I'd hoped would be addressed - especially with our codec of choice.
Our network decided to go with P2 because it was the most solid and diverse codec available for news, current affairs, sports and documentary use - being MPEG-4 native with an Intra-base (with no GOP). Metadata is an important aspect of our workflow, and older versions of FCP relied on third party applications in order to import metadata fields along with our clips.
So far, there's not been much noise as to whether Apple have addressed further P2 support for:
brucebilotti
Sep 12, 04:32 PM
Question for everyone.
I was playing with itunes 7, and I realized that if i hit the yellow minimize button (with scale effect set) it minimizes into the dock like normal, but when i try to bring it back from the dock it does nothing for a second and then it just appears. I don't know if the way i wrote that makes sense, but give it a try and see if it works for you.
I was playing with itunes 7, and I realized that if i hit the yellow minimize button (with scale effect set) it minimizes into the dock like normal, but when i try to bring it back from the dock it does nothing for a second and then it just appears. I don't know if the way i wrote that makes sense, but give it a try and see if it works for you.
Lord Blackadder
Mar 29, 05:04 PM
The key point facilitating foreign intervention in Libya is the fact that one of the factions in this civil war invited us to participate, within certain limitations. This is not an invasion, nor is it unilateral action by any party. The entire affair is predicated on 1) The Libyan opposition's call for help and 2) A UN resolution sanctioning the use of force in Libya, with support froom the Arab league (and in this case NATO as well). The actions retain legitimacy so long as this broad coalition can be maintained. Obama has never suggested that the US should or would be involved except as part of a coalition.
Finally, it is clear that Obama is flouting neither the constitution nor congress by these actions. Any claim to the contrary is either misinformed or disingenuous. That isn't to say I am enthusiastic about the affair, or that I complately agree with the president's war powers as they currently stand.
But Republicans are trying hard to get maximum political mileage out of their criticisms, with the result that they are overstepping the mark.
Finally, it is clear that Obama is flouting neither the constitution nor congress by these actions. Any claim to the contrary is either misinformed or disingenuous. That isn't to say I am enthusiastic about the affair, or that I complately agree with the president's war powers as they currently stand.
But Republicans are trying hard to get maximum political mileage out of their criticisms, with the result that they are overstepping the mark.
spicyapple
Nov 27, 09:41 AM
Money talks. &*^#*@!# walks. :)
TheSVD
Mar 4, 03:25 PM
Thanks! I was waiting for the sunset over the city last night and the clouds screwed me. So I stuck around in the cold and took some night shots. Here's another from the same bench that I didn't like as much.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5179/5490697540_0732e699f3_b.jpg
No worries man :) lucky you did, such a nice shot.. I might just have to ask for a high res version for a wallpaper :D it really is a stunning shot man.. the light cast across the benches, the city lights in the background.. it almost looks so isolated, just the bench and the city.. you can image someone sat there alone staring out into nothing with just their thoughts.. really is a fantastic photo :)
I know a photos good when it makes me think all sorts like that!
Yes, the second one is alot worse if im honest! pillar is too light, horizons off, catches no element that the first one did. stick with the first; its a great picture.
It's the south rim of the Grand Canyon, on the Kaibab Trail near Skeleton Point. Thanks for looking and commenting!
haha awesome, looks stunning! i'm not always sure about black and white landscapes but the contrasting light across the hills looks awesome! no worries man, it deserved it :)
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5013/5490102139_38f79b80e3_b.jpg
again, you dont fail to impress :D looks alot like a wallpaper I have! Again, beautiful shot man :)
Don't worry y'all the robins were flying back north last week.. you northerners will be warming up soon enough..
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee126/surferRob_photos/_2058589.jpg
what lens are you using for these? pretty damn sharp and I assume your a fair distance from the shore!
http://blurredsight.net/macrumors/bbeers-USNA.jpg
Nikon D3100, Nikkor 10-55mm, ISO 100 , 18mm, f/13 , 1/640
nice shot for a first post man :) where is that? oo that lens flare though ;) keep it up man, post more on here!
mine for today.. my beautiful little half sister :) loved the lighting here.. basically no PP at all
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5212/5497970602_9d95eb3489_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/svdphotography/5497970602/)
Sis (http://www.flickr.com/photos/svdphotography/5497970602/) by TheSVD (http://www.flickr.com/people/svdphotography/), on Flickr
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5179/5490697540_0732e699f3_b.jpg
No worries man :) lucky you did, such a nice shot.. I might just have to ask for a high res version for a wallpaper :D it really is a stunning shot man.. the light cast across the benches, the city lights in the background.. it almost looks so isolated, just the bench and the city.. you can image someone sat there alone staring out into nothing with just their thoughts.. really is a fantastic photo :)
I know a photos good when it makes me think all sorts like that!
Yes, the second one is alot worse if im honest! pillar is too light, horizons off, catches no element that the first one did. stick with the first; its a great picture.
It's the south rim of the Grand Canyon, on the Kaibab Trail near Skeleton Point. Thanks for looking and commenting!
haha awesome, looks stunning! i'm not always sure about black and white landscapes but the contrasting light across the hills looks awesome! no worries man, it deserved it :)
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5013/5490102139_38f79b80e3_b.jpg
again, you dont fail to impress :D looks alot like a wallpaper I have! Again, beautiful shot man :)
Don't worry y'all the robins were flying back north last week.. you northerners will be warming up soon enough..
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee126/surferRob_photos/_2058589.jpg
what lens are you using for these? pretty damn sharp and I assume your a fair distance from the shore!
http://blurredsight.net/macrumors/bbeers-USNA.jpg
Nikon D3100, Nikkor 10-55mm, ISO 100 , 18mm, f/13 , 1/640
nice shot for a first post man :) where is that? oo that lens flare though ;) keep it up man, post more on here!
mine for today.. my beautiful little half sister :) loved the lighting here.. basically no PP at all
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5212/5497970602_9d95eb3489_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/svdphotography/5497970602/)
Sis (http://www.flickr.com/photos/svdphotography/5497970602/) by TheSVD (http://www.flickr.com/people/svdphotography/), on Flickr
Shagrat
Oct 27, 12:42 AM
I've just installed this update and my Macbook volume seems much louder than before..
Unless I'm imagining it :D Anyone else noticed ?
Think you're imagining it. Have updated my MB and i still can't hear the fan in normal usage. I expect it will kick in at some time when it decides things are getting a bit hot.
What I don't understand is that i only started getting shutdowns after the upgrade to 10.4.8 and it's associated firmware UG. And it seemed truly random, i.e. shortly after bootup (when the MB was still cool!) or after several hours, which is why I don't understand how a thermally expanding heatsink could be the culprit. If so, then it should always shutdown as the temperature rises to a certain point.
Dunno, just hope this new updater fixes the problem.
Unless I'm imagining it :D Anyone else noticed ?
Think you're imagining it. Have updated my MB and i still can't hear the fan in normal usage. I expect it will kick in at some time when it decides things are getting a bit hot.
What I don't understand is that i only started getting shutdowns after the upgrade to 10.4.8 and it's associated firmware UG. And it seemed truly random, i.e. shortly after bootup (when the MB was still cool!) or after several hours, which is why I don't understand how a thermally expanding heatsink could be the culprit. If so, then it should always shutdown as the temperature rises to a certain point.
Dunno, just hope this new updater fixes the problem.
neesley
Jul 18, 12:49 AM
Imagine you lived in the 1500s and someone showed you two computers. If you had zero prior computer experience, would you pick a touch based computer... or would you pick one where you move some arrow shaped icon with a 2nd device called the mouse.
We're very used to using a mouse, but it's definitely not the most natural way to interact with a computer. It's not easy either. I've seen old people that never could figure out how to double click without moving the cursor 50 pixels from where they wanted to click.
Great comment!
We're very used to using a mouse, but it's definitely not the most natural way to interact with a computer. It's not easy either. I've seen old people that never could figure out how to double click without moving the cursor 50 pixels from where they wanted to click.
Great comment!
Edge100
Nov 27, 01:58 PM
Correction, They are ALL mixed well. the Separation was done on purpose, and frankly it is brilliant, and I dont find it Annoying in the slightest. (unless i am using one of those cassette adaptors in my car and it has developed a problem and only puts the left side through both speakers. yes, thats happened to me)
I honestly can't wrap my head around anyone complaining about the way those were mixed. I wish more albums these days were recorded with more experimentation on this level. i would make a huge stink if anyone Remixed those albums, and I certainly wouldnt buy them. hey why not just re-record them? george and john are dead, but we could have clapton do georges parts, and john's son Sean do his! bet we could get it to sound "Better"
If you think the stereo mixes are good, you NEED to find a copy of the mono mixes. They are much better, and much more in keeping with the original vision of the songs. The Beatles (and Martin/Emerick/others) largely ignored the stereo mixes until the late 60s' because it wasn't a popular format. In some cases, the mono mixes are drastically different than the stereo. And THAT was the way the songs were originally intended.
The word "remix" has taken on a bad connotation lately. The songs shouldn't be "rearranged" (as is the common understanding of "remix"), but the actual elements need re-balancing, mostly in the area of placement in the stereo field (as others have pointed out). Plus the actual sonic quality of the CDs is poor, and the mixes, as they stand today, need to be remastered in higher quality digital.
I honestly can't wrap my head around anyone complaining about the way those were mixed. I wish more albums these days were recorded with more experimentation on this level. i would make a huge stink if anyone Remixed those albums, and I certainly wouldnt buy them. hey why not just re-record them? george and john are dead, but we could have clapton do georges parts, and john's son Sean do his! bet we could get it to sound "Better"
If you think the stereo mixes are good, you NEED to find a copy of the mono mixes. They are much better, and much more in keeping with the original vision of the songs. The Beatles (and Martin/Emerick/others) largely ignored the stereo mixes until the late 60s' because it wasn't a popular format. In some cases, the mono mixes are drastically different than the stereo. And THAT was the way the songs were originally intended.
The word "remix" has taken on a bad connotation lately. The songs shouldn't be "rearranged" (as is the common understanding of "remix"), but the actual elements need re-balancing, mostly in the area of placement in the stereo field (as others have pointed out). Plus the actual sonic quality of the CDs is poor, and the mixes, as they stand today, need to be remastered in higher quality digital.
SandynJosh
Apr 17, 11:38 PM
As for "feminized culture" being associated with Apple products, I doubt it has anything to do with "elitism" per se. Apple tends to give technology a very "feminine" touch - meaning the products tend to have very curvy, attractive, almost sensual lines. These aren't button-festooned franken-devices with missile launchers bolted on. Attractive, minimalist design will always have some association with feminine sensibilities. This is normal.
Thanks for the great chuckle! If well-designed minimalist packaging is feminine then Red Green has the prototype of the "man's" version of an iPad. Hint: It comes in duct tape silver and pre-loaded with "Pull my Finger" and "Leisure Suit Larry in the Land of the Lounge Lizards" apps.
Thanks for the great chuckle! If well-designed minimalist packaging is feminine then Red Green has the prototype of the "man's" version of an iPad. Hint: It comes in duct tape silver and pre-loaded with "Pull my Finger" and "Leisure Suit Larry in the Land of the Lounge Lizards" apps.
MrCrowbar
Oct 28, 11:58 AM
I got 2 MacBooks for my business and i just got them shipped to me the other day, i installed the SMC Firmware update and tested the machine under the core-duo test for 45 minutes and nothing.
I did notice the fan was going like a jet engine and was waitin for the macbook to lunch off the desk but that never happend
when checked the temp before the test it was 40 C ... during the test it was 78 C ... after the test it went down to 56 C and it stayed like that for 45 minutes on idel before it went down to 45 C
how do i know if the heat sink on my MacBooks have been replaces or not, they were both costom orderd MBs and i did wait 1 month to get them from apple website
Your Macbooks are perfectly fine. Basically the fan control does the following:
1. Keep the CPU below a certain temperature (It's 57°C or something, don't
know with the new firmware)
2. Minimum fan speed is 1500 rpm (even at 2500 rpm, you don't hear the fans, the hard drive spin and CPU noise are still louder)
So in your case the Macbook cooled down below the threshold after the test. Thenthe fans on low speed slowly cooled it down. Try out SMCFANCONTROL and play around with the slider. If you put the fans to max speed when the macbook is idling, the temperature should go below 50°C within a few seconds. Beliece it or not, the room temperature ant the heat conductivity factor of the surface your macbooks are on (wood = bad, cold metal = good) are a big factor. Lift the hinge of the Macbook up with a pack of smokes if you want good air flow :-)
I did notice the fan was going like a jet engine and was waitin for the macbook to lunch off the desk but that never happend
when checked the temp before the test it was 40 C ... during the test it was 78 C ... after the test it went down to 56 C and it stayed like that for 45 minutes on idel before it went down to 45 C
how do i know if the heat sink on my MacBooks have been replaces or not, they were both costom orderd MBs and i did wait 1 month to get them from apple website
Your Macbooks are perfectly fine. Basically the fan control does the following:
1. Keep the CPU below a certain temperature (It's 57°C or something, don't
know with the new firmware)
2. Minimum fan speed is 1500 rpm (even at 2500 rpm, you don't hear the fans, the hard drive spin and CPU noise are still louder)
So in your case the Macbook cooled down below the threshold after the test. Thenthe fans on low speed slowly cooled it down. Try out SMCFANCONTROL and play around with the slider. If you put the fans to max speed when the macbook is idling, the temperature should go below 50°C within a few seconds. Beliece it or not, the room temperature ant the heat conductivity factor of the surface your macbooks are on (wood = bad, cold metal = good) are a big factor. Lift the hinge of the Macbook up with a pack of smokes if you want good air flow :-)
Cobrien
Jul 24, 06:46 AM
I think this is a cool idea but I dont think that the screen is big enough to read a book, youll only be able to get a few lines on the screnn, sony's idea looks cool but its too big.
If it was to come out I think that you would have to have free downloads or downloads at a very little cost eg $0.10 for a downloadable newspaper, that is the only way I can see it working.
PS. I think Apple will have to do more with this iPod with all the features coming with Microsoft's Zune, I cant wait to see.
If it was to come out I think that you would have to have free downloads or downloads at a very little cost eg $0.10 for a downloadable newspaper, that is the only way I can see it working.
PS. I think Apple will have to do more with this iPod with all the features coming with Microsoft's Zune, I cant wait to see.
cmwhitley
Mar 30, 04:40 AM
ME ME ME ME! because you want a new phone when you want it, apple sucks? geeze what are we, 12?
I never said that Apple sucks. Actually, in my last post, I said that I loved the iPhone, and that I thought it was a great product. I was merely expressing my disappointment/frustration with the possible changing of the product refresh cycles this year. Again, they have the right to release their products when they want. But my 3G just isn't really functional for me anymore, and I'm gonna need to upgrade sooner rather than later. I wish I could upgrade to another iPhone this summer, but that doesn't look like it's gonna happen. So I may have to upgrade to something else.
I never said that Apple sucks. Actually, in my last post, I said that I loved the iPhone, and that I thought it was a great product. I was merely expressing my disappointment/frustration with the possible changing of the product refresh cycles this year. Again, they have the right to release their products when they want. But my 3G just isn't really functional for me anymore, and I'm gonna need to upgrade sooner rather than later. I wish I could upgrade to another iPhone this summer, but that doesn't look like it's gonna happen. So I may have to upgrade to something else.
Chosenbydestiny
Nov 8, 07:48 AM
I love this temporary state of chaos, when you know it's fresh from the table, because only half the site has been updated (MB page itself, press release, store have been updated, but front page, product list page etc. hasn't) :D
EDIT: And it's that fresh that everything was updated in the time it took me to type that sentence and click 'post' :D
Haha yeah, I just noticed that awihle ago. I guess the middle level macbook is still the way to go for the bargain.
EDIT: And it's that fresh that everything was updated in the time it took me to type that sentence and click 'post' :D
Haha yeah, I just noticed that awihle ago. I guess the middle level macbook is still the way to go for the bargain.
Stridder44
Nov 7, 10:27 AM
i don't think it's happening today
Damn you communists. Damn you gay nazis. Damn you all...
Damn you communists. Damn you gay nazis. Damn you all...
Thunderhawks
Apr 2, 11:36 AM
HTC and LG have the factory space to try and compete, so they do.
Nintendo makes products for 6 year old girls.
Apple is not interested in what is today known as "3D" which is just two out of focus images hurting your eyes.
Thank you for mentioning the "3D" issue.
It gives people head aches and I feel really ripped off at the movie theaters, when they charge for these glasses, that you theoretically could keep and use again and again etc.
But...........we know why they $ell them.
Nintendo makes products for 6 year old girls.
Apple is not interested in what is today known as "3D" which is just two out of focus images hurting your eyes.
Thank you for mentioning the "3D" issue.
It gives people head aches and I feel really ripped off at the movie theaters, when they charge for these glasses, that you theoretically could keep and use again and again etc.
But...........we know why they $ell them.
Rondue
Mar 25, 02:11 PM
Hopefully it fixes the FaceTime glitch on the iPad 2.
What FaceTime glitch?
What FaceTime glitch?
nitynate
Sep 22, 10:40 PM
Screw WalMart...
Nathan prefers Target.
Nathan prefers Target.
Digital Skunk
Apr 11, 07:34 AM
I hate subscription models almost as much as I do data caps.
Agreed. And I think this model has it's pros and cons. More cons though. I personally wouldn't mind "renting" Premier Pro and After Effects when a clients asks for a project done with those tools. Or if I were collaborating and didn't want to have to work with EDLs and XML files for cross platform work.
But renting the entire CS would be crazy for anyone that gets consistent work and has their own rig to work on.
The only times I've upgraded my Adobe software has been when I desperately needed to. I stole up to CS1, bought CS2, needed CS3 to escape Rosetta and was given a copy of Design Premium CS4 from my job. I am looking to upgrade to the Master Collection but I may just wait for CS6, the just spend my time with it for 4 years.
Haha, people still actually buy software from Adobe. The Internet is your friend people.
Don't worry about it. The guys who can't afford to pay for it and pirate it are usually the folks who just want to "hoard" it rather than use it. If they had any talent to begin with, they'd be making enough money with the tool where the cost of it would be meaningless anyway. ;)
KnightWRX is correct . . . . 100% in fact.
Your logic is flawed, kid. You need the right tools, BEFORE you can make money with them.
You are wrong . . . 110% wrong in fact. You are so wrong in fact that it hurts. Tools can't teach you how to design. Any goof-ball can learn Photoshop and Illustrator, but it takes a designer to design.
I tell this to my students now that constantly whine about learning apps, but never getting the concepts down, never thinking abstractly, etc.
And as for pirating (which I was into HEAVY), it's actually far better to just buy the EDU version to learn. It's yours, it comes with less bugs, and I am sure you'll eventually want to get paid for your work yourself, so why not pay the company that's helping you get paid?
Please don't tell me that anyone that actually needs the CS apps can't plunk down $450-$1000 for the EDU version, but will shell out $3000 for an overpriced Mac Pro?
Agreed. And I think this model has it's pros and cons. More cons though. I personally wouldn't mind "renting" Premier Pro and After Effects when a clients asks for a project done with those tools. Or if I were collaborating and didn't want to have to work with EDLs and XML files for cross platform work.
But renting the entire CS would be crazy for anyone that gets consistent work and has their own rig to work on.
The only times I've upgraded my Adobe software has been when I desperately needed to. I stole up to CS1, bought CS2, needed CS3 to escape Rosetta and was given a copy of Design Premium CS4 from my job. I am looking to upgrade to the Master Collection but I may just wait for CS6, the just spend my time with it for 4 years.
Haha, people still actually buy software from Adobe. The Internet is your friend people.
Don't worry about it. The guys who can't afford to pay for it and pirate it are usually the folks who just want to "hoard" it rather than use it. If they had any talent to begin with, they'd be making enough money with the tool where the cost of it would be meaningless anyway. ;)
KnightWRX is correct . . . . 100% in fact.
Your logic is flawed, kid. You need the right tools, BEFORE you can make money with them.
You are wrong . . . 110% wrong in fact. You are so wrong in fact that it hurts. Tools can't teach you how to design. Any goof-ball can learn Photoshop and Illustrator, but it takes a designer to design.
I tell this to my students now that constantly whine about learning apps, but never getting the concepts down, never thinking abstractly, etc.
And as for pirating (which I was into HEAVY), it's actually far better to just buy the EDU version to learn. It's yours, it comes with less bugs, and I am sure you'll eventually want to get paid for your work yourself, so why not pay the company that's helping you get paid?
Please don't tell me that anyone that actually needs the CS apps can't plunk down $450-$1000 for the EDU version, but will shell out $3000 for an overpriced Mac Pro?
hyperpasta
Sep 12, 03:33 PM
GRRRRRRRRRR! I want to upgrade my current videos to 640x480... HOW?
EDIT: Oh, and don't 640x480 videos not play on an iPod?? WTF?
EDIT: Oh, and don't 640x480 videos not play on an iPod?? WTF?
daneoni
Sep 12, 04:10 PM
It's listed under "view"
Thanks
Thanks
fabsgwu
Sep 12, 02:27 PM
While many people are looking for Apple to integrate a radio tuner into the iPod it isn't going to happen.
I would prefer the option to grab a quick weather forecast, news headline or actually hear a song I don't own once in a while, but that's not the iPod way. The iPod is all about your content not someone else's.
Get an iPod radio remote and stick it in your mouth ;)
Seriously tho, with the announcement of the BluPod (http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/news/comments/blupod-ipod-add-on-offers-caller-id-radio-features/)(FM Radio and Bluetooth Caller ID remote) it seems 3rd parties will jump in the FM tuner add-on to compete with Apple (hopefully at a lower price).
I would prefer the option to grab a quick weather forecast, news headline or actually hear a song I don't own once in a while, but that's not the iPod way. The iPod is all about your content not someone else's.
Get an iPod radio remote and stick it in your mouth ;)
Seriously tho, with the announcement of the BluPod (http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/news/comments/blupod-ipod-add-on-offers-caller-id-radio-features/)(FM Radio and Bluetooth Caller ID remote) it seems 3rd parties will jump in the FM tuner add-on to compete with Apple (hopefully at a lower price).
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